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SkinShallow's avatar

Very interesting. I wonder if she lacked socialised guilt/shame in the "wrongness" judgements while retaining understanding (and possibly emotional colour) around harm?

The logic behind the breaking in and spending time seems perfectly rational: she's not doing any HARM.

I'm not a proper full spectrum sociopath (eg I really like helping, I fear many things --- tho very rarely people -- and I have acceptable empathy levels) but I definitely have big guilt deficiency, and I ALSO on a visceral level completely fail to understand "deserts", punishment and retributive "justice" and seem to be very wobbly on "fairness". Utilitarians often seem to fit here actually.

So maybe there's something about justice/fairness related social emotions that makes a bundle sociopaths have deficiency in (along with separate deficiencies in fear and empathy).

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Interesting. It makes sense to me that some (tho not all) moral feelings help the individual (selfishly) avoid punishment.

I’m not familiar with Mealey’s work. But I get the game theory case for sociopathic amorality. If I squint, I can even sort of see how genes can calibrate its prevalence — a dearth of sociopaths boosts the strategy’s payoff, but the more there are, the more pressure there is to tamp it down (via altruistic punishment, and possibly group selection). So it makes sense that the cooperative cluster of emotions will be dialed down in a few percent of the population.

But here’s what I don’t get: why would this also come with a lack of fear?

The only thing that comes to my mind is the possibility of pleiotropy — maybe genes that endow us with an aversion to pissing people off (which can involve the experience of fear, at least for me) also endow us with the fear of being abducted by strangers?

(I also wonder if there’s a selection effect at work—do the fearless sociopaths disproportionately wind up in prison and get studied?)

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