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I find I have been working from a very similar place and have also used a cake metaphor. This weekend I think I will work on a piece comparing our approaches by way of cake.

I've been using the word 'worlding to cover this worlding of the self among others doing the same (as a fractally done dance of necker cubes) [a situationing of the person situated among other persons situating the same].

Will have to come back for a closer reading.

beside the substack blog the original cake reference is at:https://www.academia.edu/40978261/Why_we_should_an_introduction_by_memoir_into_the_implications_of_the_Egalitarian_Revolution_of_the_Paleolithic_or_Anyone_for_cake

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Notes:

① “awe organ” more likely a reward centre for worlding well (we have no organ for truth either, this is why they can be conflated "feeling awe I saw the truth".

② to mix our cake batter/metaphors : we have an urge to world in the current situation, as person selfing a shared recipe in their own way, because we/they are hungry, but have to wait on somebody to get back home with the icing, and when it comes together we feel comfort in the routine (more selfie), or awe in the perfection (more wordly). So if it fails to come together, no icing to be found, we unwisely blame the messenger.

The outcome of all this affect all levels of the cake, some in proximate terms (at hand) and some as traces or echos which we will have to find out about using taphonomy rather than geneaogy.

③ many 'differences' are the outcomes of the worlding urge which is unrecognized by psychology and sociology/anthropology (I have a social ecology background). I.e we wonder why we back cakes differently but not why we bake cakes.

Cakes:recipes :: the social animals activities : a black forest cakes arises in a situation of histories and proximate choices.

social animals activities : religion/art/performance/polity/markets (cakes) and their instances black forest cakes

④ there is no gene for religion, just as there is no gene for Unitarianism, just as there is no gene for a language

⑤ we have an "urge" to world the self among others (firstly family until we individuate the self from the world we live in (or fail to separate as narcissists), then we forget the world (situation) and via attribution theory see all things in the person (in WEIRD societies) or forget the self and world without end (also a type of narcissism). Most societies can be placed within that range of proportions, which is here people find themselves (pun intended).

⑥ it's a mess because evolution don't care as long as we have a go, doing nothing will often get you killed, but in a social learning species some sort of comparative advantage kicks in and it's better to be dumb and a bit wrong, than to be too careful and motionless (fight/flight:freeze) Bad news, anxiety is never going away.

But we will continue to feel it _should_ go away. It should be better... something should be done.

⑦ on our social ecology course we had a lot of counsellors, psychologists etc, we joked we would socialise the life out of them.... party party party

⑧ I'll wait for part three for a post which these notes will work towards

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